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Post by Brandon on Jul 24, 2012 13:29:52 GMT -5
There's a few things that bother me.
1. I did not throw the last challenge, if I wanted a situation where both people were taking me I would have had Alexis/Monica or Westman/Matty in the final 3 with me. I planned on winning immunity and that's why Alexis was voted out. I figure Alexis would win over me, but if the last challenge was pulling a name out of a hat, I would have loved Alexis in the final 3 knowing I would have a shot to present my case to the jury.
2. Westman I get the feeling you are saying a lot that you were tight with me and had me like under control. Which is kind of the opposite. I told Brianna she was getting voted out, I told her to play the idol about 5 times.. maybe even more. I did this knowing that you were getting votes and would be leaving if she indeed had an idol. If there was never an idol to begin with, I would have sided with Brianna on that vote and voted you out.
3. There's more people in the final 2 than there is immunity wins.
To some of the jury members.
Brianna PLAY YOUR FUCKING IDOL
Tyson PLAY YOUR FUCKING IDOL
I skimmed through some of the other questions/answers not everything.
The way I see things.
Monica should leave round 1 or 2, fights back until tribe swap/merge and never receives another vote.
Westman benefits from tribal immunity and an inactive person, then come merge benefits from 2 dodo birds not playing an idol.
Both of your gameplays are pretty much identical aside from what I just said. You can get into the technical stuff, the bullshit, you can sugarcoat whatever you want. That's basically the story of what happened.
Going off that, the clear winner is out on the table.
In under 400 words... prove me wrong.
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Post by Monica Padilla on Jul 24, 2012 17:21:46 GMT -5
Just starting off I want to say that I never said you threw the challenge. I also understand that I never won an Immunity Challenge, but I sure came damn close. I placed 2nd in the "True Colors", placed 3rd in "Ytinummi". So I wasn't terrible at the challenges. I also think that placing 2nd in the "True Colors" challenge showed that I was aware of what people were thinking. I base this on my social game where I got to know some people very well and knew what they thought about the other players in the game. I think that challenge always shows who is aware of what is going on.
Alright so in 400 words or less you said to prove you wrong. So I will! I don't think I should have left in Round 1, 2, or 3. I think that I deserved to stay. I was strong in the challenges and was loyal to the people I made a deal with from the start (Alexis, Brianna, Kelly, and Peih Gee). I was a much bigger asset to the tribe then Penny, Jerri, or Kim. I also did receive a vote in the merge, it was from Alexis. I think the big thing though is that you have made an argument for me to win over Tom on your own. You clearly believe that Tom is here because of luck. He was lucky people didn't play an idol. However, I'm not here because of luck and luck didn't get me past those first three votes. My social game got me past those first three votes, my social game got me off the radar to be a target in the merge, and my social game broke through your all male alliance. It wasn't luck and I think I do deserve a little bit of credit for that which it seems some people want to either not give me or overshadow.
So based on your own logic Tom is here because he's lucky and I'm here because I fought back. So on that reason I think I deserve to win over Tom.
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Post by Tom Westman on Jul 25, 2012 11:31:02 GMT -5
1. I did not throw the last challenge, if I wanted a situation where both people were taking me I would have had Alexis/Monica or Westman/Matty in the final 3 with me. I planned on winning immunity and that's why Alexis was voted out. I figure Alexis would win over me, but if the last challenge was pulling a name out of a hat, I would have loved Alexis in the final 3 knowing I would have a shot to present my case to the jury.
To address this issue, you prolly had the notion that I would take you and then I knew later on that you made a deal with Monica for her to take you to the final 2. So that to me thinks that you think you were set up pretty good in the final 3 and that I ended up fighting for my own life in the game. So I don't know what you would have done had you won it knowing that Monica promised to take you and I get no such sort of promises from any of you two. I don't know if you still don't believe me that it was a hard decision for me but it did come to a point that I was going back and forth between taking either one of you but I felt like going up against you was a suicide mission and that my perception was that you were throwing the challenge because either person would take you. I'm sorry if you really did not throw that last challenge but the fact of the matter still remains that I was left to decide on who to take to the finals and as crappy as it was I did respect your game and I think you would have beaten me hands down and because I wanted to win this game I could just not take you. Perhaps I wouldn't win to Monica either but I feel like I at least have a shot at winning when I am up against her.
2. Westman I get the feeling you are saying a lot that you were tight with me and had me like under control. Which is kind of the opposite. I told Brianna she was getting voted out, I told her to play the idol about 5 times.. maybe even more. I did this knowing that you were getting votes and would be leaving if she indeed had an idol. If there was never an idol to begin with, I would have sided with Brianna on that vote and voted you out.
I never had it my intention to make it sound like you were under my control. What I was trying to say is that you and I have gotten very close and to me I thought that our bond was far greater than anyone else's deals you had. I mean if you really wanted me out you could have taken me out over Tom B but you didn't. Instead you did trust me but in no way did I say I controlled you. You're smart and you did things on your own and that's why I stuck by you even though I started having doubts that maybe you would vote me out too but that never came and so I believe you did want me around, whether you thought you could beat me in the end or whether you thought I would take you to the end if I win final immunity.
I don't believe my being here was just out of pure luck. If that was so, I could have just self-voted my way to the end and I'd still be here. Now that would be totally lucky, heck that's pretty damn lucky because that would mean I wasn't kicked out for doing so. It was so hard to keep a core alliance and I felt like I was a big part of keeping that. I pretty much talked to everyone on my core alliance on a daily basis. I tried to protect the people that were close to me (Kelly, JFP) albeit not being successful but I was able to keep them safe til they were voted out. You always had these crazy ideas that I would talk it over with you. You listened to my inputs too so it wasn't like I just stood there and listened to your every word and salivated to the floor. I listened to your inputs yeah but I always had a feedback and you of all people should know what how my thought process was all throughout this game. You guys bicker a lot of times always saying that you can't stand Monica or Monica can't stand Brandon, or Tom B had doubts over JFP or whatever. I was always at the epicenter trying to get you guys together. And letting you all see the bigger picture. Being "aware" in the majority challenge doesn't mean anything because for one I did not play that challenge to win. I only piled up all my answers to Monica because I felt like if someone was gonna get mad on me about that Monica would prolly be the least person to be mad at me. I was banking on people's emotions and I can read all of that because everyone was prolly telling me how they felt at one point or another. You guys trusted me with most of your innermost feelings about each other and that I made you guys feel that you can confide in me because when I make bonds I make them deep. If it was shallow then it prolly meant nothing. I played this game with a lot of heart and a lot of passion and dedication. And if that's not enough for you guys to see that no matter what you throw at me I can accept that because you have all the right to how you feel because you're all sitting there in the jury and you are left with no choice but to vote for either of us who you thought are not deserving to be here. But I never did once stopped playing this game since day one. That's all.
Thanks Brandon. I've never seen this side of you but I really like you despite of how things turned out. And no matter what your decision is I will respect that for what it is.
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Post by Kelly "KPurpz" Shinn on Jul 25, 2012 18:33:33 GMT -5
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Post by brianna on Jul 25, 2012 19:36:01 GMT -5
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